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I search for carding forums. But there are full of scam advertisers etc. I will like to know the 5 more popular carding forums if somebody knows.

Also one more question. Why in all this forums they have advertise who sell that this or that shop shell dumbs with pins etc and the same time nobody in dark markets sell this? There are really sell dumbs with pins or it is just scam?

Also one last question. Which iw better dark market for carding things? Alphabay?

Thnx

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